see me, feel me, vaporize me

are we not aliens ourselves? how do we look to the simeans who perhaps saw us crawl from the ocean or descend from the heavens several ages ago. here are some great thoughts on the matter:


Our first questions to the extraterrestrials should be about science rather than theology. Or maybe the questions should be even more practical than that: Are you friendly? Do you mean to kill us or enslave us? Did we mention that we have nukes?



But irrespective of the order, it's clear that inquiries into the spiritual lives of our friends from the stars will be of universal interest. What might we expect to learn about them, and from them?
To begin with, the question of whether aliens have souls is a non-starter. If they are intelligent, sentient beings, they get the same presumptive metaphysical accoutrements as we. In other words, if you tend to think that humans have souls, chances are you'll extend that to aliens. If you think that we don't, then you'll almost certainly think that they don't, either. Yes, a few fundamentalists will insist that we have souls and they don't, and a few total flakes will insist that they do and we don't -- but the overall debate about the existence of the soul will be largely unaltered.



If and when we encounter aliens, we will likely find that they have several religions, as well as competing non-religious and anti-religious modes of thought. The science fiction commonplace of mono-cultural alien races -- like the geographically homogenous desert, swamp, and ice planets these beings hail from -- seem improbable. Alien civilizations are likely to enjoy (or endure) the same intra-species diversity of cultural expression as we do, including religion. Some of their religions may look strikingly similar to some of ours, at least at first glance, while others will look completely unlike anything ever believed or practiced on Earth. In any case, it's doubtful that we will find an exact match between any two. ---http://www.blog.speculist.com


























In the words of physicist and author Paul Davies, "The existence of extraterrestrial intelligences would have a profound impact on religion, shattering completely the traditional perspective of God's special relationship with man. The difficulties are particularly acute for Christianity, which postulates that Jesus Christ was God incarnate whose mission was to provide salvation for man on Earth. The prospect of a host of 'alien Christs' systematically visiting every inhabited planet in the physical form of the local creatures has a rather absurd aspect."Most Christians don't give much thought to the existence of extraterrestrial life, and if pressed for an answer, they usually either deny their existence, or suggest that there is an underlying deception that links them with fallen angels. According to Tariq Malik, staff writer for Space.com, a telephone poll, which questioned one thousand Americans, revealed that regular churchgoers were less likely to believe in extraterrestrial life (about 46 percent) than non-churchgoers (about 70 percent)...Additionally, in May of 2005, a survey conducted by the National Institute for Discovery Science was given to pastors, priests, and rabbis across the United States, asking basic questions relating to extraterrestrial life. Out of all of the comments posted in the survey, not a single one formed the basic conclusion that angels, by definition, are intelligent beings whose origins are not from Earth. All of these people have been reading and studying the Bible most of their lives, and couldn't see the basic fact that one of the primary themes of the Bible is God's intervention in the affairs of humanity through extraterrestrial beings. http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com

keeping it greasy since 1200 b.c (before cryogenisis)

i am keenly interested in the human contact with outsiders that may have occurred in centuries past. here are some interesting tidbits i dug up and some other random brain droppings:

These two images are from France, the cave of "Pech Merle" near "Le Cabrerets" c.17,000 - 15,000 BC. The scene depicts a landscape full of wildlife together with a number of saucer shaped objects.

This cave painting is c.10,000 BC and is from Val Camonica, Italy. It appears to depict two beings in protective suits holding strange implements.

This image of crusaders date from a 12th century manuscript " Annales Laurissenses" (volumes/books about historical and religion events)and refer to a UFO sighting in the year 776, during the siege on Sigiburg castle, France. The Saxons besieged and surrounded the French people. They both were fighting when suddenly a group of discs (flaming shields) appeared hovering over the top of the church. It appeared to the Saxons that the French were protected by these objects and the Saxons fled.

The above painting is by Carlo Crivelli (1430-1495) and is called "The Annunciation" (1486) and hangs in the National Gallery, London. A disk shaped object is shining a pencil beam of light down onto the crown of Mary's head. A Blow up of the object is next to the painting.

----http://www.alien-ufo-pictures.com

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Me likey the atom bomb.

Turn your head and cough?

targeted meat vessel expenditure

the american public is so well informed:

*Alien attacks!, how prepared is earth really?

*well prepared - [7.84%]
*not prepared - [76.47%]
*dont know - [15.69%]
















so i must not be the only one...:

‘Aliens’ Attacking Bosnian Man with Meteorites
Five meteorites have fallen on Radivoje Lajic’s house in the past six months. There is only one possible conclusion. Lajic says, "I am obviously being targeted by extraterrestrials. I don’t know what I have done to annoy them but there is no other explanation that makes sense. The chance of being hit by a meteorite is so small that getting hit five times has to be deliberate." The rocks, which have been confirmed by Belgrade University scientists to be actual meteorites, have prompted Lajic to install a steel-girder reinforced roof on his home.

The Earth is wide open to alien attack, a former Government advisor has warned.
Nick Pope said the department that formally investigated UFO sightings had closed down, meaning unexplained phenomena were not being investigated.

the human mind itself an alien artifact

"Aliens, if an when we find them, could be so alien, so different from humanity as to undermine the meaning of any exchange we might have, or even make such exchange impossible." --Henry Gee
---the prevailing thought in the scientific community is that possible interfacing with alien intelligence will be inhibited by the barrier that is the limited ability of the human mind. perhaps we are already interacting with with alien intelligence but are too dull to recognize this fact:





It is probable that there is life elsewhere in the universe and that some of that life is intelligent. There is a high mathematical probability that among the trillions of stars in the billions of galaxies there are millions of planets in age and proximity to a star analogous to our Sun. The chances seem very good that on some of those planets life has evolved. It is even highly probable that natural selection governs that evolution (Dawkins).

Despite the fact of the improbability of interplanetary travel, it is not impossible. Perhaps there are beings who can travel at very fast speeds and have the technology and the raw materials to build vessels that can travel at near the speed of light or greater. Have such beings come here to abduct people, rape and experiment on them? There have been many reports of abduction and sexual violation by creatures who are small and bald or are white, gray, or green; have big craniums, small chins, large slanted eyes, and pointed or no ears.


































Alien Abduction Survey

Answer each question with a "yes" or a "no"

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Do you take more vitamins than most people?
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Do you have sinus trouble or migraine headaches?
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Do you secretly fear being accosted or kidnapped if you do not constantly monitor your surroundings?
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Do you have trouble sleeping through the night for unexplainable reasons?
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Have you seriously considered or did you install a security system for your home even if there was no justification?
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Do you have dreams of flying or being outside your body?
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As a child or teenager, was there a special place you secretly believed held a spiritual meaning just for you?
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As a child or adult, did you ever hear a voice inside your head talking to you which wasn't your own?
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Did you ever experience a period of time while awake where you could not remember what you had done during that period of time? This missing time may have been a half hour, several hours, a whole day or more. Do not answer "yes" for memory lapses due to highway driving, drinking binges, chronic pain, medical conditions, exhaustion, effects of medication, mind-altering substances, or being lost in reading a good book.
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As a child or adult, have you seen faces or beings near you when in bed which were not explainable?
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Have you ever seen a UFO?
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Have you ever seen a UFO up close within short walking or driving distance?
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If you have seen a UFO up close, were you strongly compelled to walk, drive or stand near it?
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Do you have a waking memory of being inside a UFO or interacting with its occupants?
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Have you had multiple sightings of UFOs?
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Are you more sensitive to issues affecting the earth, its environment and all life forms than other people?
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Do you have dreams where superior beings, angels, or aliens are educating you about mankind, the universe, global changes or future events?
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Does your home have unexplainable sounds, apparitions, or unusual events which are attributed to ghosts?
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As a child or adult, have you had nosebleeds or found blood stains on your pillow for unexplainable reasons?
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Have x-rays or other procedures revealed unexplainable foreign objects lodged in your body?
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close the gate, i fear there may be ruffians about

who are we to question the journey of a few dozen nutbags that roam this earth, searching for their own destinies? i for one salute you, gentle weavers of the tapestry of the undeniable:












Two thousand years ago, a crew of members of the Kingdom of Heaven who are responsible for nurturing "gardens," determined that a percentage of the human "plants" of the present civilization of this Garden (Earth) had developed enough that some of those bodies might be ready to be used as "containers" for soul deposits. Upon instruction, a member of the Kingdom of Heaven then left behind His body in that Next Level (similar to putting it in a closet, like a suit of clothes that doesn't need to be worn for awhile), came to Earth, and moved into (or incarnated into), an adult human body (or "vehicle") that had been "prepped" for this particular task. The body that was chosen was called Jesus. The member of the Kingdom of Heaven who was instructed to incarnate into that body did so at His "Father's" (or Older Member's) instruction. He "moved into" (or took over) that body when it was 29 or 30 years old, at the time referred to as its baptism by John the Baptist (the incarnating event was depicted as "...the Holy Spirit descended upon Him in bodily form like a dove" - Luke 3:22). [That body (named Jesus) was tagged in its formative period to be the receptacle of a Next Level Representative, and even just that "tagging" gave that "vehicle" some unique awareness of its coming purpose.]














The sole task that was given to this member from the Kingdom of Heaven was to offer the way leading to membership into the Kingdom of Heaven to those who recognized Him for who He was and chose to follow Him. "The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand" meant - 'since I am here, and I am from that Kingdom, if you leave everything of this world and follow me, I can take you into my Father's Kingdom.' Only those individuals who had received a "deposit" containing a soul's beginning had the capacity to believe or recognize the Kingdom of Heaven's Representative. They could get to His Father only through total reliance upon Him. He later sent His students out with the "Good news of the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand," and His followers could then help gather the "flock" so that the "Shepherd" might teach others what was required of them to enter His Father's House - His Father's Kingdom - the Kingdom of Heaven - in the literal and physical Heavens - certainly not among humans on Earth. Leaving behind this world included: family, sensuality, selfish desires, your human mind, and even your human body if it be required of you - all mammalian ways, thinking, and behavior. Since He had been through this metamorphic transition Himself from human to Level Above Human - under the guidance of His Father - He was qualified to take others through that same discipline and transition. Remember, the One who incarnated in Jesus was sent for one purpose only, to say, 'If you want to go to Heaven, I can take you through that gate - it requires everything of you.'

























Our mission is exactly the same. I am in the same position to today's society as was the One that was in Jesus then. My being here now is actually a continuation of that last task as was promised, to those who were students 2000 years ago. They are here again, continuing in their own overcoming, while offering the same transition to others. Our only purpose is to offer the discipline and "grafting" required of this transition into membership in My Father's House. My Father, my Older Member, came with me this time for the first half of this task to assist in the task because of its present difficulty.
Looking to us, and desiring to be a part of my Father's Kingdom, can offer to those with deposits that chance to connect with the Level Above Human, and begin that transition. Your separation from the world and reliance upon the Kingdom of Heaven through its Representatives can open to you the opportunity to become a new creature, one of the Next Evolutionary Level, rightfully belonging to the Kingdom of Heaven.











The Earth's present "civilization" is about to be recycled - "spaded under" - in order that the planet might be refurbished. The human "weeds" have taken over the garden and disturbed its usefulness beyond repair.
These space alien adversaries, for the most part, are about to be "recycled" as this human civilization is "spaded." They know that "rumor has it" that their days are numbered. They refuse to believe it and are desperate to recruit souls from the human kingdom into their "heavenly kingdom." There are many "counterfeit" heavens, and each "heaven" is at this time collecting "names in their book," forcing a stand of allegiance, polarizing each individual's commitment to his chosen "God."

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here are some thoughts on one of my favorite couplings, extraterrestrials and the government:

"It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong." -Voltaire

Public Announcement: Galactic Freedom Day to Expose Secret Agreements with Extraterrestrial Groups.On 8/8/08 a multinational consortium of citizen organizations conducts a positive intention event concerning government and corporate agreements involving extraterrestrial life and technology. The goal is to expose and nullify these agreements due to their non-representational status. On 8/8/08 at 8 pm [UT/GMT] individuals and small groups around the planet will convene to celebrate the inaugural Galactic Freedom Day.According to event organizers, the event will start the process of ending agreements concerning extraterrestrial life that have been secretly entered into by a range of government authorized agencies, departments and corporations. In some cases, these pacts involve representatives of advanced extraterrestrial civilizations whose existence has not been disclosed to the general public.The goals and objectives of these secret agreements have been with a variety of Extraterrestrial groups which in many cases have acted unethically towards human civilization. These "Secret Agreement" ETs appear to have entered into operational agreements with governments, corporations, and private groups who are part of the ruling elite and permanent war economy.These "Secret Agreement" ETs do not include ethical Extraterrestrial civilizations now visiting Earth who are here to assist humanity in its evolution, and with whom humanity should seek strategic alliances. Representatives of one such civilization reportedly met with U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower on Feb. 19-20, 1954 at Edwards Air Force Base, CA. and urged the USA to abandon their nuclear weapons program on the grounds that nuclear weapons were harmful to the biosphere, to humanity, and to the dimensional ecology. The U.S. government responded 9 days later by testing a 15 megaton H-Bomb in Bravo Test. There is speculation that ethical ETs are restrained by the Prime Directive from directly interfering in human affairs, something which the "Secret Agreement" ETs have violated in their power-oriented agreements with the earth's power elite.

Extensive testimonial evidence exists of secret government and corporate agreements concerning extraterrestrial civilizations. The evidence suggests that such agreements have been in place since at least the 1950s in the United States with the covert cooperation of other major nations. A select group of whistleblowers have come forward to offer testimony of events or documents they witnessed that support the existence of such agreements. What follows are some of the testimonies of whistleblowers for whom public documentation is available. Such documentation supports their claims of being at classified locations where events or documents suggesting secret agreements may have been witnessed as they claim.Lt. Col. Philip Corso was a military intelligence officer, a decorated former battalion commander and served in the Eisenhower administration as a military liaison. He finished his military career as head of Foreign Technology Desk, for the U.S. Army from 1961-1963 where he was responsible for seeding extraterrestrial technologies in select corporations for development. He alludes to secret agreements where extraterrestrials exploited military concerns over premature disclosure in the following passage:We had negotiated a kind of surrender with them [extraterrestrials] as long as we couldn't fight them. They dictated the terms because they knew what we most feared was disclosure. [The Day After Roswell (Pocket Books, 1997) 292.]Charles Hall was a former weatherman for the U.S. Air Force from 1963 to 1967. He was stationed at Nellis Air Force Base where he witnessed extraterrestrials regularly meeting with senior military leaders. He claims that secret underground bases were built to house the extraterrestrials and their advanced interstellar ships:The USAF was obviously willing to give them [extraterrestrials] as much of any food item that they requested, no questions asked. The USAF was obviously entirely willing to give them both food and non-animal based clothing items ( cotton, nylon, etc.) without limit for use as trading materials....The hanger appeared to have been entirely constructed by the USAF for use by the tall whites. For example, the inside of the hanger looked just like any other ordinary aircraft hanger. It included ordinary fire extinguishers, arrows marking exits, etc. In addition to writing and signs on the walls in English, it also include hieroglyphics and icons used by the aliens. The alien writing was done in pink paint against a white background.

Clark McClelland was a former Space Craft Operator who during his 34 year career from 1958-1992, served on the Mercury, Apollo, SkyLab, Space Shuttle and International Space Station. During a Space Shuttle mission, he witnessed an extraterrestrial communicating with tethered astronauts:I, Clark C. McClelland, former ScO, Space Shuttle Fleet, personally observed an 8 to 9 foot tall ET on his 27 inch video monitors while on duty in the Kennedy Space Center, Launch Control Center (LCC). The ET was standing upright in the Space Shuttle Payload Bay having a discussion with TWO tethered US NASA Astronauts! I also observed on my monitors, the spacecraft of the ET as it was in a stabilized, safe orbit to the rear of the Space Shuttle main engine pods. I observed this incident for about one minute and seven seconds. Plenty of time to memorize all that I was observing. IT WAS AN ET and Alien Star Ship! A friend of mine later contacted me and said that this person had also observed an 8 to 9 foot tall ET INSIDE the SPACE SHUTTLE CREW COMPARTMENT! Yes, inside OUR Shuttle! BOTH missions were DoD (Pentagon) TOP SECRET (TS) encounters!

Don Philips was a former U.S. Air Force and aerospace engineer with Lockheed Martin. He directly worked on advanced aerospace projects, and witnessed events and documents confirming that some of these projects were based on extraterrestrial technologies. In the following passage he refers to secret documents and a film that describe a meeting between President Eisenhower and extraterrestrials:We have records from 1954 that [there] were meetings between our own leaders of this country and ET's here in California. And, as I understand it from the written documentation, we were asked if we would allow them to be here and do research. I have read that our reply was well, how can we stop you? You are so advanced. And I will say by this camera and this sound, that it was President Eisenhower that had this meeting. ["Testimony of Don Phillips," Disclosure, ed., Stephen Greer (Crossing Point, 2001) 379]Dan Sherman was a former electronic intelligence expert with U.S. Air Force who worked with the National Security Agency on a highly classified program called Project Preserve Destiny that used "intuitive communications" with extraterrestrials. He received specialized training that used innate intuitive or psychic abilities without his normal military superiors being informed. In the following passage he writes about his growing disenchantment with the Project based on data confirming extraterrestrial abductions were being relayed by extraterrestrials to governmental authorities.

How to distinguish between "Secret Agreement" ETs and Ethical ExtraterrestrialsAt the May 9, 2001 Disclosure Project press conference, Dr. Carol Rosin of the Institute for Cooperation in Space (ICIS) shared Dr. Wernher von Braun's whistleblower revelation of a phased "Psyops" to continue the permanent war economy after the collapse of the "permanent enemy" of Communism:Phase I - A False War on Terror - Fulfilled by the False Flag Operation of 9/11 and the Global War on TerrorPhase II - A False War against the Near Earth Objects - Attempts at this are seen daily by prognostications of asteroids and meteors about to hit Earth.Phase III - An "Invasion" of the "Secret Agreement" ETs - The 2008 Stephenville, TX Disclosure Management Ops (Jan. 8, 2008 UFO Sighting 10 miles from the Texas Whiten House) may be the initial phases of a longer term Trojan Horse PsyOps using "Secret Agreement" ETs or Alien Reproduction Vehicles (ARVs) integrated with UN and other State Actors to achieve New World Order political control objectives.http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2006/12/eyeopening_inte.htmlAction citizens can take against the "Secret ET-Govt Agreements"1. Media - Write letters to the Editor of your local and national newspapers, magazines, TV like Larry King Live etc. alerting them of the "Secret ET-Govt Agreements" , and demanding an investigative report.2. Federal Government - Fax or write letters to your congressperson, member of parliament alerting them of the "Secret ET-Govt Agreements" and demanding an official inquiry.3. Municipal Initiative - Start a municipal ET ballot initiative like the Extra Campaign in Denver, CO., for a citizen-initiated Extraterrestrial Affairs Commission that will investigated "Secret ET-Govt Agreements" as they affect the citizenry.www.extracampaign.org/4. Positive Intention - Join in the Galactic Freedom Day Positive Intention Event starting at 8pm [UT/GMT] on 8/8/08.

---http://www.trulyunusual.com/

21st century meat vessel partiality

i began a search thinking about evolution, extraterrestrials, cloning, and the beautiful mind that belonged to a true pioneering acid-dropping french race-car driving world hero, rael:

The "Alien Myth" and reality of time travel-

What are aliens? What are the classic characteristics of an encounter with an alien. Most say Large heads, and small frail bodies. Many say that aliens may communicate through some kind of mental telepathy. The one thing that everyone agrees on is that if there are aliens, they are much more advanced than us both technically and physically. How do aliens relate to us (Humans)? Think about us and how different we are than creatures such as homo-erectus and the ape-like creatures that we evolved from hundreds of thousands of years ago. Many people wouldn't believe that such creatures existed, but science has proven it. many institutions have the actual skeletal remains of early man-like creatures. It is an undisputable fact that evolution is part of our past and will continue far into the future. Think about how many things have changed in just the past hundred years or so. That is a very short amount of time from a evolutionary prospective. Could anyone imagine what the world will be like in a thousand years or one hundred thousand years? I bet if we could see it we would not believe our eyes. What if the beings we call "aliens" are actually the product of humans after many thousands of years of evolution.

Here is why: A creature will evolve in time to perform best in its environment or die off. Charles Darwin noted that Birds that developed larger harder beaks in areas where the food supply was primarily hard seeds and nuts thrived while other bird species died off. What do you think the human of the future will evolve into? It seems that as technology becomes more and more advanced there is less of a need to be physically strong and more of a need to expand mental capacity. It also seems that communication is the key to learning, teaching and advancing our mental capabilities. Since humans have developed a way of communicating Ideas through language our species has thrived and advanced tremendously. Even today we still try to expand and create new and better ways to communicate (telephone, internet, palm pilot, cell phone and so on). I think you are getting the picture. This means that evolved humans thousands of years from now will obviously be much more intelligent and advanced with much less of a need for physical strength and endurance resulting in the typical alien image of a small frail body and large cranium and advanced telepathy ways of communicating. ---http://www.newagedirectory.com/

A Raëlian is a follower of Raël, a Frenchman and former motor sport journalist and race-car driver whose parents, the Vorilhons, called him Claude when he was born in 1946. He claims that on December 13, 1973, he was in a volcano near Clermont-Ferrand, France, when he saw a UFO "7 meters in diameter made of a very shiny silver metal and moving in a total silence." He says a radiant being emerged and entrusted him with a message revealing the true origin of mankind. They told him that henceforth he would be known as Raël, which means "messenger."
His followers consider him to be "the prophet of the third millennium." Like all good religious leaders, Raël expects his followers to support him. A 10% tithe is the norm.
He explains his mission in his book, The True Face of God. Vorilhon claims that
he was taken to the planet of the Elohim in a flying saucer in 1975, where he was introduced to noted earthlings such as Jesus, Buddha, Joseph Smith and Confucius. The Elohim, small human-shaped beings with pale green skin and almond eyes, were apparently the original inspiration for the Judeo-Christian God. They informed Vorilhon that he was the final prophet -- sent to relay a message of peace and sensual meditation to humankind under his new name of Raël -- before the Elohim would return to Jerusalem in 2025.
Raël claims that the Elohim have taught him that the human race was created from the DNA of aliens some 25,000 years ago. (In fact, all life on earth was created in alien laboratories.) Among other things, Raël has also learned that cloning is the way to immortality and there is no God or soul. According to Raël, our alien creators want us to be beautiful and sexy and enjoy a sensuous life, free from the restrictions of traditional Judeo-Christian morality.---http://www.skepdic.com/raelian.html